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We switched from Celery to Temporal. Temporal is such a great piece of distributed system.


> My impression is that OCR is basically solved at this point.

Not really in practice to me. Especially they still struggle with Table format detection.


This.

Any complex parent table span cell relationship still has low accuracy.

Try the reverse, take a complex picture table and ask Chatgpt5, claude Opus 3.1, Gemini Pro 2.5 to produce a HTML table.

They will fail.


Maybe I misunderstood the assignment but it seems to work for me.

https://chatgpt.com/share/68f5f9ba-d448-8005-86d2-c3fbae028b...

Edit: Just caught a mistake, transcribed one of the prices incorrectly.


Right, I wouldn't use full table detection to VLM model because they tend to mistake with numbers in table...


Maybe my imagination is limited or our documents aren't complex enough, but are we talking about realistic written documents? I'm sure you can take a screenshot of a very complex spreadsheet and it fails, but in that case you already have the data in structured form anyway, no?


> realistic written documents?

Just get a DEF 14A (Annual meeting) filing of a company from SEC EDGAR.

I have seen so many mistakes when looking at the result closely.

Here is a DEF 14A filing from Salseforce. You can print it to a PDF and then try converting.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1108524/000110852425...


Historical filings are still a problem, but hasn’t the SEC required filing in an XML format since the end of 2024?


It's not really about SEC filings, though. While we folks on HN would never think of hard copies of invoices, but much of the world still operates this way.

As mentioned above I have about 200 construction invoices. They are all formatted in a way that doesn't make sense. Most fail both OCR and OpenAI


OpenAI has unusuably low image DPI. Try Gemini.


Now if someone mails or faxes you that spreadsheet? You're screwed.

Spreadsheets are not the biggest problem though, as they have a reliable 2-dimensional grid - at worst some cells will be combined. The form layouts and n-dimensional table structures you can find on medical and insurance documents are truly unhinged. I've seen documents that I struggled to interpret.


To be fair, this is problematic for humans too. My old insurer outright rejected things like that stating it's not legible.

(I imagine it also had the benefit of reducing fraud/errors).

In this day and age, it's probably easier/better to change the process around that as there's little excuse for such shit quality input. I understand this isn't always possible though.


I had mentioned this when the new QWEN model dropped - I have a stack of construction invoices that fail through both OCR and OpenAI.

It's a hard (and very interesting) problem space.


In case if you don't know, Auth.js is not a frontend-only framework. It uses a backend server to make it secure.

So it basically has no difference from the alternatives you mentioned.


> make it secure

It's convenient, I'll give them that. Secure? https://projectdiscovery.io/blog/nextjs-middleware-authoriza...


Well, that has nothing to do with JS itself though.


It is really easy to tell the difference btw. You will always see "4" or "7" in the middle.


How does it compare to frp, one of the most popular Open Source Cloudflare Tunnel alternative?

https://github.com/fatedier/frp


I think with the web UI it is a little more user friendly but not as super familiar with FRP. I think we might have a little more authentication control on top of the tunnel for web traffic as well.


Artificial Analysis is the only stable source. Don't look at others like HF Leaderboard.

https://artificialanalysis.ai/


Because gov infra also relies on CVE?


> it probably is an anomaly that this was government funded

Companies can definitely fund it. But to be fair the gov, including NIST, also relies on CVE.


Yup. aws-cli is not dedicated for file sync. It was strange that there is sync command when aws-cli is meant to be a wrapper for a single api calls at the beginning.

Use a tool that does one thing well like rclone.


maybe it was strange to have a sync command.

but stranger is defending it's obvious broken state by claiming it should never have existed.


It is not same as OP, but according to a similar o11y stack on top of Clickhouse, Signoz, Clickhouse based logging costs less than ELK for storage and performs better:

https://github.com/SigNoz/logs-benchmark


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