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People keep trying to push for this. It won't happen. Masses will go vegan before they eat maggots if we run out of meat.

I wouldn’t be so sure about what will happen or not in general, and in that case it’s certainly an option as

   - people already do eat maggot without noticing (and pretty sure some *do* notice)
   - if you don’t know about cheese you wouldn’t believe I’m eating fat’s mold. 
   - our siblings ape, pigs and other animals eat them too, it’s a good nutrient source
   - someone from the past wouldn’t believe modern humans eat stuff made from petroleum, animals from gigafactories
   - being *not-vegan* is like a religion for some and I’m wondering if they would think about cannibalism before realizing they get plenty of nutrients from the plants already on the menu.

I'd like to add to this, only because it is an early stage item but maybe a little unrelated:

If you are an early stage startup and your founders have a habit of talking about "competitors", run like hell.


+1. and if they say things like "we're going to disrupt the industry," again, run.

There were many things I did not like about working for Jeff Bezos, but one I did like is he kept repeating this.


> If you are an early stage startup and your founders have a habit of talking about "competitors", run like hell.

Why? Comparing what the competitors are doing can be a great way to come up with new ideas


because comparing yourself to your competitors will get you a faster horse buggy, not an automobile. if you're in a startup, you should be risking making automobiles. if you want to make faster horse buggies, go work for AT&T.

Good ideas need the right timing to line up. AT&T can afford to keep a research project around until the timing is right where a startup needs to find market fit immediately.

i'm not sure that is true about AT&T. you may be thinking about Bell Labs, which effectively destroyed it's culture in the 90s or early 2000s.

but i take your point to mean there are large companies that have budget to maintain projects that do not have an immediate need to be profitable. and agree that for startups, it's a great idea if you're building things for which a market is emerging. everyone talks about how Steve Jobs is a miracle worker. not to diminish his accomplishments, but he was also very lucky. he wanted to sell apple 2's into a market that was just starting to want to buy apple 2's. i'll give him the iPhone, however. i think he was smart enough to understand the forces were aligning to make a product that your average user would like.

but apple didn't spend 30 years making the iPhone. they had to wait 'til the market was there and manufacturing costs were low enough and bandwidth was available. i'm mostly agreeing w/ you, but i think ideas can weave in and out of companies and organizations. CALO jumped from DARPA to SRI to Apple to Quato and motivated several more startups.


Before the 1990s, Bell Labs was the research arm of the world's largest and richest telecommunications monopoly. That explains the difference between old and new Bell Labs.

Wiki says:

    > With the breakup of the Bell System, Bell Labs became a subsidiary of AT&T Technologies in 1984, which resulted in a drastic decline in its funding.

Ah, the mythical secret weakness of all startups: another startup doing the same thing.

of course. how else would they get funded?

Your competitors are not necessarily targeting the same users, and their internal strengths and weaknesses are different from yours. All comparisons to competitors are superficial and distract you from building what your users want and improving upon your internal strengths and weaknesses.


Scarcity mindset.

Saying competition is integrating with whatever or has a feature for bla seems like a good thing

Maybe not for everyone, but it will never be the year of the Windows Desktop for everyone either.

Everyone is a basically impossible metric, so this is a fairly pointless statement.

It was, some 25+ years ago.

No it wasn't. Only in your head

Over 90% of desktops had Windows back then. So yea, that's everybody. Unless you're being pedantic because one guy was using IRIX on an SGI workstation, or the odd Mac.

10% of everyone is still a whole lot of people. Even 1% of everyone is a lot of people.

Of course "everyone" isn't meant literally in a context like this.

No one said “everyone” until you did, and now you’re using it to be pedantic… bad faith tactic that.

Don’t be a troll.

Arch is the reason I didn't choose Gentoo for my latest build. It's convenient and "good enough" for all my use-cases. Gentoo gives you the feeling of being fully connected to the computer like no other OS - the kind that leaves you nostalgic - but it also requires a time commitment.

My friends stop communicating when they visit their home in Iran. They did this even when their data and water were flowing.

I'll take the current state of HN over every other forum on the internet.


I know, right!? Wait! You don't?

I guess what you really want inside bodies that are contrary to your interests is not your official representatives, but moles pretending to be representatives of other states. (But not nobody at all.)

Aren't all official reps moles? That's what a diplomat does - represent your best interests with a big smile talking to their guy or gal that also has a big smile. We're all friends here... until we're not.

I bet the number of vegans and vegetarians in the US are also at their highest (and growing).

That's probably true, but I don't think vegans and vegetarians as a demographic overlap closely with demographics that tend to have heart disease.

(Note that I am neither a vegetarian nor a vegan.)


There may be some correlation but causality is unclear. India has a lot of vegetarians and also a high incidence of heart disease.

That might have something more to do with almost one in four people in India being a tobacco user[1]. CDC suggests that one in four CVD deaths (in the US) is caused by tobacco use[2].

[1]: https://globalactiontoendsmoking.org/research/tobacco-around...

[2]: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/about/cigarettes-and-cardiovascu...


It has more to do with people who are on farming diets but no longer farm.

People in India smoked just as much when they weren't living such sedentary lifestyles.


I don't understand the claim: is it that farming diets are unhealthy, or something else? I'd expect subsistence lifestyles to have higher all-round mortality, but probably not CVD specifically.

> People in India smoked just as much when they weren't living such sedentary lifestyles.

I suspect they also lived shorter lives for the aforementioned all-round mortality reasons.


Farming diets are rich in calories. Great for farmers. Not so great for desk jockeys.

I think most farming diets in India are closer to subsistence diets, or at least historically have been.

(If you have resources that show otherwise, that would be interesting. But smoking really does seem like the obvious historical outlying factor for heart disease in India, with calorie-dense diets playing catch up as the country has become wealthier.)


Vegans are probably mostly healthy. Vegetarians? Religious vegetarians and healthy vegetarians intersect but mostly don't ;).

I remember seeing a paper a while back that found veganism increased your death by ischemic stroke probability threefold.

Because of old age. Being vegan increased your odds threefold to die of old age instead of prematurely from disease.

Apologies for not having a link to the source


This is not accurate. Please link to your source.

A healthy, whole-food plant-based diet is linked to a lower risk of ischemic stroke, with studies showing reduced risk compared to meat-eaters. The conclusion of this paper[1] for example reads that "Lower risk of total stroke was observed by those who adhered to a healthful plant-based diet."

Additionally, researchers at Harvard found that a plant-based diet may lower overall stroke risk by up to 10%. [2]

1: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8166423/

2: https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/healthy-plant-based-diet-assoc...


Hey, do whatever helps you sleep at night. That's what I do. We're all going to the same place - a couple of years here and there won't do much when you're that old anyway.

There is a massive amount of research that shows that Vegans are healthier as a population than Vegetarians and definitely meat eaters. Lower risks of nearly every preventable food related illnesses, including cancer. Having this new government health pyramid flies in the face of nearly all current research.

nothing stops you from reading more about the topics before commenting on them haha

I thought that would fall under common sense, but if not:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10479225/


But it sure does seem like that sometimes

I will wait until the reviews and 3rd party lab tests come out before getting excited.

Man, I can't wait to get to the point where I can call anything electrical "easy".

This looks like Zig. What problems does this solve that Zig doesn't? Potato - potaato?


C3 is more comparable to Odin or the Better C mode in D in that it tries to be a pragmatic evolution not revolution of C.

Here is a comparison to Zig in terms of features: https://c3-lang.org/faq/compare-languages/#zig

And yes, they are all system programming languages with a similar level of abstraction that are suited for similar problem. It is good to have choice. It is like asking what do you need Ruby for when you have Python.


Looks can be deceiving.

C3 provides a module system for cleaner code organization across files, unlike Zig where files act as modules with nesting limitations.

C3 offers first class lambdas and dynamic interfaces for flexible runtime polymorphism without Zigs struct based workarounds.

C3s operator overloading enables intuitive math types like vectors, which Zig avoids to prevent hidden control flow.


Zig doesn't have operator overloading. This does.


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