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Qualcomm should put a giant bid on SiFive tomorrow, to remind ARM that its not unassailable


Intel supposedly put in a multi-billion dollar offer and got laughed out of the room.


So a business that is entirely dependent on ARM IP and, for the most part, Android should "remind" the company they're dependent upon? Let's do a thought experiment - Qualcomm switches to RISC-V while the other Android SoC makers (MediaTek, Samsung, Google, Xiaomi, etc.) stay on ARM. Who buys the new Snapdragon RISC-V phone?


They can design chips. What Qualcomm might not be able to do is deliver solid software support for their riscv64 hardware. Android decelerated their efforts toward support recently.


In the bay area it’s mildly different as its known that the wages are high


Wages do not matter anymore, i've seen guys making 300K+ a year struggling to get women interested in them.

Also, if you want to lose all your assets - only then lead with your wallet.


Nintendo should really enable IPv6 on the Switch to help with this


The network experience on Nintendo devices always seemed janky and home-grown. I feel like they built everything from scratch at corp HQ complete with wonky edge cases.


Lots of companies need skills they don't know how to ask for. So they advertise for the wrong things. For example a medium size real estate firm probably needs someone to deal with the computers. Its a grind but cold reach out can go far


this seems like bad example.. a commercial company in the US almost always has Windows.. Windows is a merry-go-round of virus and intrusive, debilitating updates. Professional consultants in every big city exist to do nothing but get paid to babysit Windows. Why spend money on training a junior that may leave, instead of hiring the consultants that know how to babysit Windows? .. Secondly, real estate is close to law and banking, where there is a culture of semi-arbitrary seniority.. juniors do as they are told by their managers or else you are replaced. It is a situation that most adults quickly try to leave, but there are infinite numbers of new semi-desperate people to replace the juniors, as there have been for the last several centuries in those professions.

For those two reasons, a real estate office is a bad example of the dynamics of hiring junior (high skill) CS graduates IMHO

I agree that companies do a poor job of advertising and screening for skills that they really need. Guessing, it might have to do with HR or worse, bad-intention managers, copying the habits of other hiring practices blindly.


New grads are a lot of work to train


I was told they get harder to remove when you’re older


It's one of these areas where people (including medical professionals) hold strong beliefs, but then it turns out that there are other highly-developed countries where this is not routinely practiced, and the outcomes aren't necessarily different.

Routine wisdom teeth removal is not a thing in most of Europe. Another random example are colonoscopies and routine flu vaccines (except for the elderly).


I've generally assumed the simplest explanation is that many of these weakly-supported procedures are regular, consistent income streams for the people who perform them in the US: my four wisdom teeth (that were causing me serious issues at age 19) cost $2k to remove nearly 20 years ago, and I know colonoscopies are billed to insurance in the thousands. There's not much incentive to move to cheaper tests or wait-and-see, when you can just do it to everyone who reaches a certain age by default.

Presumably flu shots are good business for the manufacturers, though I'm not sure about the science. After having the flu as a healthy late-twenty-something a while ago, which was...intensely horrible, I've chosen to get it ever since.


It's not always true though. My dentist in Europe pushed me to get my wisdom teeth removed early "because you're going to need to get them removed eventually anyway" at a government clinic with no profit incentive.


Not sure which country you're talking about, but in Germany, the public health insurances cheerfully pay for annual flu and COVID boosters for everyone.


Flu may not be too dangerous in people who aren't elderly but it still sucks. Can a non-elderly, not in any other high risk group, person get seasonal flu vaccination in Europe if they ask for it, and is it covered by European health care systems?


Not covered, but I can get the shot at nearby pharmacy for 15€.


They're not only covered by the gesetzliche Krankenkassen (German public health insurance providers, mandatory if you don't meet the criteria for private insurance), mine gives me a little bonus if I prove I've gotten various vaccines, including annual COVID booster and flu.


Yes, it's much harder for a dentist to convince a 30 year old adult than is to convince a 12 year and his helicopter parents.



This guy infamously has a problem with each and every HN user and chooses to display an NSFW image saying such if your request's referrer header has news.ycombinator.com. Don't click.


Sorry, I thought he disabled that.


I believe he did? At least I didn't run into that n a long time.


"Some people, when confronted with a problem, think 'I know, I'll quote Jamie Zawinski.' Now they have two problems."


Depends on what yield AMD has, they may be able to undercut that if aiming for marketshare rather than revenue.

The marginal cost of each chip is dollars. The 5 digit prices for H100s are just margins to be undercut


After deep diving into building datacenters, I realized that traditional clouds (AWS, Google, azure) add a huge margin to GPUs like H100s.

You can (and I think should), cut it out by going with coreweave, lambda, another or doing it yourself

I’m okay paying that huge margin to first tier cloud for CPUs and disks, which are cheap, but not GPUs


1st stage reusability matters more so they can reach a cost model similar to F9, second stage is really just bonus.

If they never get the second stage working with reusability they could strip the design down to a simple S2


If they struggle with first stage re-usability for a while, that merely adds cost. Further they probably want to iterate and scale anyways, so in the short term they're gonna be building a lot of first stages anyways.

Second stage reentry is necessary for this thing to ever carry people, ostensibly the mission the ship was designed for. It is a hard requirement.


Power them from a pure sine wave inverter connected to a battery thats being charged. Aka a good UPS


That's not good enough - everything attached to the computer (including network gear, unless it's fiber) must be powered by the same UPS, or you have pathways for lightning current to enter.


Some UPS for consumers even have an ethernet through-port so you can connect your internet cable from the wall to the UPS before it touches your router.


Ethernet has galvanic isolation.


That's functional isolation. Yeah, they're individually tested to 1500 Vrms (or so the factory in china claims), but that insulation is still just the very thin lacquer of the windings and maybe lacquer on the core. There are more expensive (and physically much larger) Ethernet transformers for medical devices and such, these have actual double/reinforced insulation and are tested to much higher voltages.

Typically the Ethernet shield is also only alibi-insulated from the device's ground. Sometimes not at all. (Personally it's always funny to me to see the fat 1kV/1nF capacitor from the shield to the device ground and then the metal of the socket is just bunched up with basically no clearance against the metal case or something like that). This can of course be avoided by simply using unshielded cable.


Doesn't a (plugged-in) UPS have similar isolation?


A online UPS has in line: a rectifier with its transformer and output-smoothing capacitors, a huuuge battery, surge capacitors, power transistors, another transformer and more capacitors. And only then comes the actual device with its PSU.

It takes an awful lot of power to smash through these multiple layers of insulation and bypass all the capacitors, at least if the PSU is properly designed (specifically, clearance between the various power / ground domains).

In contrast, Ethernet transformers are tiny small little things.


Yes, but only the transformers will provide the galvanic isolation. And if the windings are not physically separated then you are basically in the same situation.


Most UPS that you’d plug into a socket aren’t online/double conversion though, they’re line-interactive.


The real money is in renting infiniband clusters, not individual gpus/machines

If you look at lambda one click clusters they state $4.49/H100/hr


I'm in the business of mi300x. This comment nails it.

In general, the $2 GPUs are either PE venture losing money, long contracts, huge quantities, pcie, slow (<400G) networking, or some other limitation, like unreliable uptime on some bitcoin miner that decided to pivot into the GPU space and has zero experience on how to run these more complicated systems.

Basically, all the things that if you decide to build and risk your business on these sorts of providers, you "get what you pay for".


> slow (<400G) networking

We're not getting Folding@Home style distributed training any time soon, are we.


Distributed training data creating & curation is more useful and feasible. Training gets cheaper 1.5x every year, but data is just as expensive, if not more, given that the era of "free web crawls of human knowledge" is over.


I agree with you, but as the article mentioned, if you need to finetune a small/medium model you really don't need clusters. Getting a whole server with 8/16x H100s is more than enough. And I also believe with the article when it states that most companies are finetuning some version of llama/open-weights models today.


Exactly, it covered in the article that there is a segmentation happening via GPU cluster size.

Is it big enough for foundation model training from scratch = ~$3+ Otherwise it drops hard

Problem is "big enough" is a moving goal post now, what was big, becomes small


so why not buy up all the little h100s and enough together for a cluster? seems like a decent rollup strategy?

ofcourse it woudl still cost a lot to do... but if the difference is $2/hr vs $4.49/hr then there's some size where it makes sense


Only if they're networked with Infiniband.


Makes sense, though only folks like runpod / sfcompute / etc, have enough visibility to maybe pull this off?

Its a risker move - then just taxing the excess compute now, and print money on the margins from bag holders


Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall, neither of those two companies own their own compute. They are marketplaces.


Yup, but they at-least know where all these "small unused clusters" are.

Bag holders, do not want to be shouting to the world they are bag holders.


I think sfcompute does own a lot or most of the current compute on their platform? Not entirely sure though.


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