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“If I had to work under a terrible system like that, I would simply continue to work under the system.”

If they ran the suburban rail more frequently Boston would have a phenomenal system.

The suburban rail in Boston is very much commuter rail. I live about 50 miles west (pretty near a station though I have to drive) and I'll absolutely take it for a 9-5ish urban event. But it's completely useless for anything in the evening.

NJ Transit is commuter rail and they made it not suck by providing usable evening and weekend service.

I don’t know how many people have bought them, but I’m going to guess it’s in the millions since Apple are updating it. All those people presumably do find it useful separate from their devices.

Personally I don’t always have an Apple device in my backpack, and when traveling you can’t put devices in checked luggage, so I use them for those use cases at least.


I switched from Android to iPhone last year, and this just isn’t true. There’s so many tiny issues with android apps that just don’t exist on iPhone, because the android apps have to work on all these different devices. You don’t even have to look for the kinds of apps you’re talking about because things like Safari and Apple Podcasts work really well. I know people have a lot of complaints, but things on the iPhone really do “just work”.

iOS is great if you only want the parts that "just work", and don't need any of the things Android has that "just don't work" on iOS.

> because things like Safari ...work really well

Are we living in the same universe? We manage a fleet of tablets (both Apple and Android) for a healthcare company whose EMR is web-based. And because of that Sarafi has made our lives miserable. So much so that we're migrating to Chromebooks.

I've been developing for the web for 15 years. The first half was spent battling Internet Explorer. Now it's Safari.


There are some proprietary Chrome APIs but if you’re not using those it’s been pretty rare to have major problems in recent years. I open a couple of bug reports a year against Chrome, Firefox, and Safari—mostly accessibility related—but most of the time it’s been a problem with code written specifically against Chrome rather than code which couldn’t work in the other browsers.

The people complaining about Safari often are running enterprise crapware that requires some esoteric Chrome API or bug to operate correctly and should actually be an app on iOS but cannot be funded as such because its creators don’t care about its users.

Then again, if a company can't polish a web browser app, then the native app they'd produce will be even worse.

Now you have a crappy app that only works on some devices, and now with no tabs, no links, text you cannot select anymore because they used the wrong component, etc.

Ugh.


Well, formerly you would have been right, but WebUSB and whatnot are gaining a lot more traction.

I didn't take WebUSB seriously until I steered someone to flashing a small firmware onto something and they could do it straight from the browser! And it was a nice workflow too, just a few button and a permission click.

Two other examples I can think of are flashing Via (keyboard) firmware and Poweramp using WebADB via WebUSB to make gaining certain permissions very easy for the layman. I imagine it's gonna get more and more user in enterprise too.

Firefox is seriously behind by refusing to implement it.


WebUSB is a giant gaping hole in the browser sandbox. Innocent use cases are really nice, I've used WebUSB to flash GrapheneOS on my device, but the possibilities for users to shoot themselves in the foot with nefarious website are almost endless.

Consider the fact that Chromium has to specifically blacklist Yubikey and other known WebAuthn vendor IDs, otherwise any website could talk to your Yubikey pretending to be a browser and bypass your 2FA on third party domains.

I'm conflicted on WebUSB because it's convenient but on the balance I think it's too dangerous to expose to the general public. I don't know how it could be made safer without sacrificing its utility and convenience.


It really isn't. Chromium (since 67) does USB interface class filtering to prevent access to sensitive devices. Then there is the blacklist you mentioned.

On top of that, straight from Yubico's site:

".. The user must approve access on a per website, per device basis .."

This isn't any more a security hole than people clicking "yes" on UAC prompts that try to install malware.


> ".. The user must approve access on a per website, per device basis .."

Of course, but a phishing website "fake-bank.com" could collect user's username, password, and then prompt them to touch their yubikey. This wouldn't trigger any alarm bells because it's part of the expected flow.

> This isn't any more a security hole than people clicking "yes" on UAC prompts that try to install malware.

Yes it is. The only reason why Yubikeys are immune to phishing and TOTP codes aren't is because a trusted component (the browser) accurately informs the security key about the website origin. When a phishing website at "fake-bank.com" is allowed to directly communicate with the security key there's nothing stopping it from requesting credentials for "bank.com"


Again, that exploit factor is irrelevant now because WebUSB is blacklisted from accessing, among other things, HID class devices. So no site, even with permission, can access U2F devices over WebUSB. There is no special blacklist needed per vendor or anything.

You are right that it was a security hole in Chrome <67. Which is almost a decade in the past by now.


> some esoteric Chrome API or bug

Or simple things like supporting 100vh consistently. Is that estoric?


I’m a developer too, but the developer experience doesn’t matter to users. As a user of the app, it’s fast enough, cleanly designed, seems to be reasonably private and secure, and I haven’t hit any website with it where I’ve had to download chrome to view it or something.

You're a developer but you can't connect the dots between features being hard to build and the inconsistencies between other browsers vs Safari to how that might effect the user?

I can be a user separate from being a developer. The user experience of Safari is basically perfect for a browser. The development experience is completely irrelevant from that perspective.

> The user experience of Safari is basically perfect for a browser.

This is such a wild, absolute statement it's not even worth discussing this with you anymore.


I mean… what do you want me to do, list problems I don’t have with it? As a user of the app, Safari fades completely into the background for me, I don’t know what else I could ask for from a browser.

> I know people have a lot of complaints, but things on the iPhone really do “just work”.

Recently on HN: https://www.bugsappleloves.com/


I would love to see a site like that for android, but people don’t have the same expectation of flawlessness with it.

I've tried switching to iPhone and the lack of a consistent back button like Android has always drives me crazy.

> but things on the iPhone really do “just work”.

For values of “just work” close to 0.

Make a picture, connect with a Windows PC, iOS needs a password, then the picture is not visible to the PC, disconnect, go with Apple photos to look at the picture, repeat connecting, with password, now it is visible.

Try to set up a hotspot, there is no button to turn the hotspot on/off.

So yes, it “just works"


You can find your hotspot button in the control center. Swipe down from the top right of the screen. It’s in the same section as airplane mode / WiFi / cellular data, and takes another tap to access.

You actually don't even need to set up hotspot more than once if the phone and the computer are both yours (and apple-brand). You can just connect to the iPhone with the Mac (if they're on the same iCloud account) and it works without entering a password.

> Try to set up a hotspot, there is no button to turn the hotspot on/off.

There is. You can even put it on the settings drawer. Look for "personal hotspot".

I don't have a mac anymore, but IIRC you could even turn it on from the paired mac. This definitely still works between iphones. When I take out my old iphone from the drawer to use as a GPS on my bike, with no sim card, it will connect to my regular iphone's hotspot automatically.


> Try to set up a hotspot, there is no button to turn the hotspot on/off.

I’m confused, which button? Do Android phones come with a physical button to enable hotspot?


Just a quick shortcut

I think anyone who’s ever worked in construction would balk at the idea of hanging your life on pieces of building facade. Except for the the pieces stopping people falling through the outside windows and walls themselves, most of the outside decorative stuff is only designed to hold itself onto the building and not much more. He’s potentially hanging his 200lbs on something that’s intended to hold 0lbs.

No, you forgot that architects count the wind forces in, not just the weight of pieces hanging onto the facade. Give them dynamic spikes of factor 10, so it looks more like 1000lbs. Only once you can get your engineers to agree on only factor 2, you can build much much lighter structures.

No I didn’t, you’re talking about big sheets of stuff, which probably won’t have anything to hold onto on it. I’m talking about the fiddly little bits that he’s likely to be holding onto. A little bit of flashing around a window has a wind load approaching zero.

When I'm cleaning highrise windows I put a looot of force crimping window frames to move laterally. I haven't broken anything yet.

I've also done a facade inspection on a building where massive sheets of metal had been badly installed. The vast majority of them weren't connected to the structural steel beams, they were just held together by single screws (with no nuts!) that were falling off due to wind making the screws bore a bigger hole. A sheet had fallen off the 12th floor right onto the busy boulevard below.


you're not wrong, but i lived in Taiwan a while back for a number of years and things are built different there. it's not something you would necessarily notice unless you live there for a while, but once you start seeing it, it's hard to unsee.

the walls are thicker. everything is reinforced. external structures are bolted more securely. why is this a thing? taiphoons and earthquakes, is why.

if you like solid construction, there's plenty of it in taiwan. also, 101 is a flagship building. an item falling from the facade would kill someone or be a huge embarassment. this is not something they would let happen. just some local context fyi. that said, i wouldn't trust my life to those external structures either, but you do see alex testing as he goes.


You can see him testing pieces as he goes - tapping with his fist.

If I wanted to read what ChatGPT would tell me about a subject, I would have been on ChatGPT.

The Europeans I know seem to save in actual bank savings accounts, whereas the Americans I know seem to invest their money. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but I can't find a description of "savings" on those charts, so I think it might be ignoring American investments. To me, they are both types of investment, one a super safe option with a low return, and the other a more risky option with a higher return.

From that Draghi paper a year ago or so, I believe part of Europe's innovation problem seems to stem from a lack of private investment by individuals in this way, so that would also align with this different philosophy on dealing with savings.


Isn't it a huge issue for Europe, that stock revenue is heavily taxed, while pensions accounts (which make the same investments) are not?

Which means it makes more financial sense to put the money into pensions accounts?


When private individuals have their money in savings accounts, aren't the banks investing that money anyway ?

Practically, yes. But in economics they often classify “savings” only as being in a bank account. So if you “save” money in a 401k, where it’s invested in stocks, bonds or ETFs or whatever, then it’s not recorded as savings because they consider that “investment”. So when someone says EU saving is 18.79% vs US saving of 3.50%, most of the wealth saved by Americans isn’t showing up in that comparison because it’s not in a bank account.

If it is just a matter of classification, then why would part of the problem lie on lack of private investment, when private savings are invested by the banks themselves ?

I think a big a part is that a lot of EU money is invested in the US instead, and I am looking forward for that to stop..


There’s a whole lot of regulation around the types of investment a bank can make with the money. Most of it has to be low risk mortgages, loans and high quality bonds.

Makes sense, thanks !

I’d be very surprised if that site wasn’t counting stocks as savings.

Would this work for rheumatoid arthritis? I don’t know anything about it myself so it could be a completely different thing, but someone I know has it and it is awful. Would be great to see a treatment coming through.

ra is autoimmune

In addition to the title’s “hate is a strong word”, in the comments we have “hate is a weak word”, “hate might be a strong word”, and “hate is the perfect word”, averaging out to something like hate being ever-so-slightly on the strong side of perfect.

There’s a massive lack of gardai (the Irish word for police) in Ireland, and you’ll be waiting for the better part of an hour if you call them. But by all means, let’s forget about the types of basic “safety in your own home” type of policing and focus on creating a cyberpolice force instead.

I know you want to think, or have been told to think that the reason this happens is because they need more cops.

Brother let me assure you, more cops will not help. I have lived in cities with more than twice as many cops per 10k. Both times I actually needed one it took over 3 hours.

They were never intended to provide basic safety to you in your home. That's your job. Their job is to deal with what comes after that.


You've missed the sarcasm in the OP.

On a side note, the suggestion that police numbers don't affect crime is obviously false. We've seen what an arbitrarily large police presence does to Washington DC this year with the national guard deployment.


> They were never intended to provide basic safety to you in your home.

Uh actually i do think police presence has a deterrent effect on crime. In fact, number of police on the street is one of the strongest measures for reducing crime!


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