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Not only did they make her cry, they also darkened her skin.

Nazis. The federal government has become nothing more than actual, honest-to-God Nazis.

The other day, the official DHS presser had them prominently displaying a direct Nazi slogan: "One of ours, All of yours".

This, of course, referenced how that day one of their ICE agents murdered an innocent US citizen.


They passed the DHS funding. The day ICE executes a man in broad daylight by blowing his brains out from point-blank, they get an extra $10,000,000,000 in funding.

America is a failed nation.


Did the Senate pass it? I think just the House did.

It's a simple majority and Republicans have 53 votes without defects. Every single Republican voted for it in Congress, so clearly today changes nothing at all. And 7 democrats even voted alongside them.

No, this bill would be subject to the filibuster (since it's not a reconciliation bill under the Budget Act), so it's not a simple majority.

The guy was filming ice, they started pushing some other person so he got in between them. They threw him to the ground, where three men pinned his hands down. Another pulled out his pepper spray can, then started beating the victim in the face repeatedly.

At the same time, a fifth agent pats him down. He finds a gun (legally purchased and the MN police have said he was permitted to carry). They remove the firearm and walk away.

Then one of the officers yells "he has a gun" and shoots him point blank. Then another officer fires, which looks to kill him and he drops face-down and the officers back away. Finally, one more pulls out his firearm and puts 9 into the back of the victim's corpse - guaranteeing he can't be saved


This got flagged and dead-ed within a couple minutes. Discussion now here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46745047

A reminder that /active is the actual frontpage to HN. The landing page is just what the censors allow you to see.

It should be the reverse. The fontpage ought to be "active"—add a "filtered" link the to header/banner for people that hate seeing politics.

Show dead is also your friend.

Thanks for the link to https://news.ycombinator.com/active; didn't know that one.

As for the existence of "censors" that don't "allow" you to see anything. That's not how this site works, and your lack of carefulness stating that leads me to downvote that.

As much as I hate that anything regarding the rise of fascism in the US get's insta-flagged (by a community, not a "censor"), it's still very easy to find such posts, for example on an aggregator [1] and on the /active subpage you just mentioned.

It will also be broadly shared on regular (social) media, which is an oft stated reason this kind of stories get flagged by the community, although I think there are many other reasons.

[1] https://hckrnews.com


"…didn't know that one."

Yeah, that's a problem. Not even a link in the header/banner to active.


> this video will likely be glad just instantly

Again.

Anyway, the video shows that we've unequivocally entered open-air brownshirt executions.

This person was pinned to the ground by three people while another was just wailing against their head from above. Hard to tell what object they're using as a cudgel to their face.

Then the subsequent mag dumping just to be extra sure they're dead.

We really need that lady in the back to release her video.


For anyone wondering why this is relevant to HackerNews:

- There are tech companies and workers in companies outside California,

- A government deploying a militarized police force to execute people in the streets is bad for the economy,

- That government is the United States, and so this is bad for the world economy,

- A lot of the people in our industry are immigrants from outside the United States,

- If you're a HackerNews user in the United States, you can be shot and killed just like this.


Also, that this kind of state violence and collapse of democracy is underway in the country that also happens to be the center of the global tech industry is something that all HNers should care about.

- most of this has been helped by big tech. By algorithms polarizing people, rich people buying social media to further their agenda, etc

Another reason: individual liberty is and has been an important value in the tech community since the 1960s.

Has it? The original hacker movement surely had it, but is that still the tech community? I feel that since about 2012 the tech community has been money seekers — people who want to own the next AirBNB and Uber — and they don't care about individual liberty.

It's absolutely inexcusable, even moreso than the murder of Renee Good. Though I fully expect the usual suspects to show up and claim it was justified because he was resisting arrest, which seems to be the popular modus operandi for justifying execution by the state.

I don't know how you think this is worse than Renee Good's murder. She was shot in the temple through the driver side window while being directed by an Ice agent to drive away. She was then denied medical care at the scene, and local police were denied access to investigate while the shooter was shepherded out of state as quickly as possible

Well they tried to deny local police access here too, but the local police wasn't having it this time

I think they're both inexcusable. Both are entire worlds that have been removed from the earth, because some insecure men were given guns and power by Trump

"We haven't quite decided yet whether he committed suicide or died trying to escape."

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Doesn’t matter if he was or wasn’t resisting arrest. Totally irrelevant. This is supposed to be a country of laws. There is no law that allows for execution for resisting arrest.

I guarantee you there was also no legal cause for arrest either, these Nazis just like to assert that filming them and making noise is a federal crime.

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If someone has a firearm and resists arrest... you arrest him.

Is there proof of lethal self-defence being required? Then show the proof of that, nothing has come out in support of that.

Your hypothetical is big, if true... but it's not.


And, as everyone knows, the typical punishment for resisting arrest is public execution.

In revolutionary France.


It didn't warrant the pistol whipping either

They have two agents holding his hands to the ground while another is beating him in the face with a baton repeatedly. That's not an arrest!

They're just thugs who gang up on people and use the violence they themselves are committing as proof of "resisting arrest" to justify escalating violence. There are now numerous videos of them using excessive force, like spraying a from inches away while while am agent has them pinned down, hands behind back. Or a subdued person in cuffs getting a knee to the back of their neck.


Here's the source for that one (just in case anyone is living under a rock or something),

https://www.startribune.com/border-patrol-greg-bovino-smoke-... ("A federal agent sprays a man being pinned to the ground by other agents following the detention of at least two teenagers in south Minneapolis on Jan. 21. (Richard Tsong-Taatarii/The Minnesota Star Tribune)")


Stop with the soft defense/soft endorsement of Federal officials executing people on the street.

They've been swarming everyone with multiple agents, even people that are objectively not resisting arrest [1]. That's part of what they do to provide cover. It makes it harder to see the victim in question for any bystander taping the incident. Same reason why whenever they arrest a protester they immediately surround them.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1q9p1dp/man_kn...


And, to be clear, an administrative warrant IS NOT A WARRANT. It's essentially a memo.

If only there was some kind of way we could find out what happened. Maybe like, reading articles before participating in Nazi apologetics?

> Liam Ramos, a preschooler, and his father were taken into custody while in their driveway... Liam and his father had just arrived home when they were detained... the father’s car was still running...

> An agent had taken Liam out of the car, led the boy to his front door and directed him to knock on the door asking to be let in, “in order to see if anyone else was home – essentially using a five-year-old as bait”

> Stenvik said another adult living in the home was outside during the encounter and had pleaded to take care of Liam so the boy could avoid detention, but was denied...

> Marc Prokosch, an attorney representing the family, said the family had an active asylum case and shared paperwork showing the father and son had arrived to the US at a port of entry, meaning an official crossing point.

> “The family did everything they were supposed to in accordance with how the rules have been set out,” he said. “They did not come here illegally. They are not criminals.” He said there was no order of deportation against them.


"$100 million is nothing" folk from yesterday starting to see the problem yet?

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