EEnE had a strangely surrealist quality to it that stands out in my memory. It’s goofy and slapstick, but it’s basically its own little vacuum of a world and even feels slightly unsettling at times. It’s hard to put my finger on it exactly. It tends to veer between Looney Tunes rules and being grounded in reality, but it doesn’t really spend much time making the two compatible. It just kind of swings wildly between them (see: their mouths when they eat jawbreakers).
Now that I think about it, that’s probably partially why there’s that old copy pasta about it being a dystopian setting. It lends itself well to the concept.
I think the fact that the kids are alone and unsupervised basically all the time is what makes it so unsettling. You never see adults in the show. It's always just the same small group of kids. About the only adult interaction with the kids is through sticky notes.
I think that need and loneliness is also expressed in the show. Which is different from other kids shows which are more cartoony (Dexter's Laboratory, for example, though the adults do make appearances)
Now this is making me wonder if there was a shift at some point… as far as I remember, kids shows in the past were mostly about the kids. Ed Ed and Eddy and the Peanuts might have taken this to an extreme as part of the joke. These shows were for kids, and so the kids were the focus.
I wonder if kids shows nowadays feel a need to include more adults because adults are more likely to be watching.
There's a difference between peanuts and the eds. In peanuts, adults were definitely around but the words they said weren't understandable. As a result they basically were just background noise. It wasn't the case that the kids felt unsupervised. They still went to school, rode the bus, talked with their teachers and parents (even if you never saw them.) And they never expressed a feeling like the adults were missing.
In the eds, if you'd said "their parents have long been dead and the kids are clinging on to what was left", it'd fit right into the story. Eds had dark and serious moments around the lack of adults.
Huge difference in tone between the shows, 100% agree. I just think they are both sort of lampshading the fact that they don’t have any focus on adult characters (in completely different ways).
Oh yeah, this is absolutely a thing, though I think it's more to include a potentially additional audience rather than a way to make it fun for the kids. As a parent, I've loved it because it allows me to be able to stand and even get a joke here and there while watching shows with my kids.
And once again with one sentence Adams is able to all but completely articulate an incredibly nuanced cultural topic:
> Terrible things happen to him, he complains about it a bit quite articulately, so we can really feel it along with him - then calms down and has a cup of tea. My kind of guy!
Some people can communicate on a truly different level.
The Copernican Revolution (discovery earth was not at the center of the solar system) initially had worse empirical calculations because they didn't know planets traveled in ellipses.
The moments after the revolution might be worse, but in the long term, we got better.
It could be if it actually lets us calibrate our credence of your original claim that most revolutions have resulted in a lot of death for little benefit. If the worst examples are much worse than the best examples, or vice versa, then we can plausibly conclude whether you are at least directionally correct.
You don’t take the single best and single worst examples of a thing that has occurred thousands of times to determine if the results are more positive or negative on average.
That depends entirely on the specifics. If the worst revolution killed 20 people and the best led to the Enlightenment, scientific progress, vaccines, etc., you absolutely can judge your claim's merits, even if there were 10,000 examples of those bad revolutions and only 1 example of a good revolution.
Do you think this is a productive exercise and we are going to A) answer this and/or B) glean anything from it? This back and forth feels does not feel productive, unless we want to playfully and in good faith game out how this could maybe be done.
Forest fires are immensely destructive, but they clear the way for new growth in their wake. The same has been said for recessions and the economy, and I think there's at least some comparison to be made for revolutions and societies.
Nah this revolution the billionaires who control the Ai and automated means of production will voluntarily give their money to the little guy instead of needing widespread unrest and riots beforehand like the other times
I’m guilty of some political debates here no doubt but man it seems like there have been a lot new accounts lately coming in red hot and starting fights
Feels the opposite for some of us. Lots of angry takes about people critiquing it, endless praise of how Claude code makes folks 1000x more productive, etc.
It’s probably somewhere in the middle with both of us noticing the examples we find annoying more often than we notice the ones we agree with.
> I feel like you people are intentionally misconstruing what "Luddite" means.
That’s a very unfair accusation to throw at someone off the cuff. Anyway, what you wrote is not what a Luddite is at all, especially not the anti-vaccine accusation. I don’t think you’re being deliberately deceptive here, I think you just don’t know what a Luddite is (was).
For starters: They were not anti-science/medicine/all technology. They did not have “blanket opposition to all technological improvement.” You’re expressing a common and simplistic misunderstanding of the movement and likely conflating it with (an also flawed understanding of) the Amish.
They were, at their core, a response against industrialization that didn’t account for the human cost. This was at the start of the 19th century. They wanted better working conditions and more thoughtful consideration as industrialization took place. They were not anti-technology and certainly not anti-vaccine.
The technology they were talking about was mostly related to automation in factories which, coupled with anti-collective bargaining initiatives, led to further dehumanization of the workforce as well as all sorts novel and horrific workplace accidents for adults and children alike. Their call for “common sense laws” and “guardrails” are echoed today with how many of us talk about AI/LLM’s.
I’d say people fall somewhere in between 0% and 100% bigoted and what they will tolerate/laugh at can be incredibly nuanced. Nobody is actually 0% or 100% racist but I generally consider myself “not bigoted” in a broad sense. Everyone is of course carrying some bigoted opinion(s) though, it’s unavoidable.
But back to the point: I’d say I am by and large not particularly bigoted. Still, I’d be lying if I said I have never laughed at off-color jokes. No matter how progressive or anti-racist you are something is going to break through. That is what makes it such a powerful tool for less scrupulous actors. You find what a person or community is willing to tolerate, then you either peel off people in private or push boundaries out loud and slowly drive a wedge into the community.
Best resource ever for anyone creating anything. Essential for when I DJ’d back in the day, still use it for video production today. No matter where my career takes me freesound is always there ha
Americans across North/South/Central America are feeling the impact of the tariffs in various ways. This report is talking specifically about the impact on US citizens, so the distinction is ultimately warranted IMO
Now that I think about it, that’s probably partially why there’s that old copy pasta about it being a dystopian setting. It lends itself well to the concept.
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